Calls from Quebec 514-958-0000 Options

[guest]

OK, I'll start things off in "Telemarketing-Legal" with a new topic.

This topic concerns calls from Quebec 514-958-0000.

I've gotten several calls with "Quebec 514-958-0000" comming up on Caller ID.

Some of the calls have been abandoned (the caller hangs up when I answer), and some of the calls have delivered prerecorded messages. The prerecorded messages have been on behalf of Summer Bay Resort and DirecTV.

Anyone know who is billed for 514-958-0000? The areacode/exchange 514-958 appears to be in Canada, and it appears to be unassigned. But there also appear to be some businesses using this areacode/exchange.

[Syd]

OK, I'll start things off in "Telemarketing-Legal" with a new topic.

This topic concerns calls from Quebec 514-958-0000.

I've gotten several calls with "Quebec 514-958-0000" comming up on Caller ID.

Some of the calls have been abandoned (the caller hangs up when I answer), and some of the calls have delivered prerecorded messages.  The prerecorded messages have been on behalf of Summer Bay Resort and DirecTV.

Anyone know who is billed for 514-958-0000?  The areacode/exchange 514-958 appears to be in Canada, and it appears to be unassigned.  But there also appear to be some businesses using this areacode/exchange.

Hi Thier is no Business using this number. I own a similar number in Canada( 1 digit difference and we get 20 calls a day off people who miss dial and are pissed off) 514-958-0000 is unassigned and thats why they are using it.

[Kim]

OK, I'll start things off in "Telemarketing-Legal" with a new topic.

This topic concerns calls from Quebec 514-958-0000.

I've gotten several calls with "Quebec 514-958-0000" comming up on Caller ID.

Some of the calls have been abandoned (the caller hangs up when I answer), and some of the calls have delivered prerecorded messages.  The prerecorded messages have been on behalf of Summer Bay Resort and DirecTV.

Anyone know who is billed for 514-958-0000?  The areacode/exchange 514-958 appears to be in Canada, and it appears to be unassigned.  But there also appear to be some businesses using this areacode/exchange.

[Kim]

I also have received MANY calls from this number and have been unable to find its source.  I would like to know how to reach this number to tell them to stop calling me.  My own phone company can't even help me with call block.  If anyone knows how to get in touch with them please let me know.  Thanks ...

[netty from ga]

Hi Thier is no Business using this number. I own a similar number in Canada( 1 digit difference and we get 20 calls a day off people who miss dial and are pissed off) 514-958-0000 is unassigned and thats why they are using it.

check out smallclaim.info/zen.php

[netty]

           

PLAINTIFF'S ASSISTANT: TCPA CITATION HUNTER
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This was sent to them.
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FCC Enforcement Bureau file #EB-03-TC-003
Published 11 Mar 2003
Adapted from http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2003/DOC-231937A1.html.
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FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSIONWASHINGTON, D.C. 20554

March 11, 2003

Express Consolidation, Inc.
413 - N.E. 3rd Street
Delray Beach, Florida 33483
Attn: Randall L. Leshin, Esq., President/Dir.

Express Consolidation, Inc.
506 N.E. 5th Avenue
Delray Beach, Florida 33483
Attn: Randall L. Leshin, Esq., President/Dir.

Delray Funding Corporation 1
504 N.E. 5th Avenue
Delray Beach, Florida 33483-5600
Attn: James J. Atwood, President
Tom Eichas, Chmn. of Board
Rick Fletcher
Randall L. Leshin, Esq. Agent

Randall L. Leshin, Esq.
1921 E. Atlantic Boulevard
Pompano Beach, Florida 33060-6651
RE: EB-03-TC-003

Dear Correspondents:

This is an official CITATION issued pursuant to section 503((5) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended (the Act), for violations of the Act and the Federal Communications Commission's rules that govern telephone solicitation.2

It has come to our attention that your company has delivered one or more prerecorded unsolicited advertisements to residential telephone lines (see attachment). The Act and the Commission's rules prohibit transmission of unsolicited advertisements through prerecorded messages to residential telephone lines except under the very limited circumstances described in the rules.3 The term ``unsolicited advertisement'' is defined in the Communications Act and the Commission's rules as ``any material advertising the commercial availability or quality of any property, goods, or services which is transmitted to any person without that person's prior express invitation or permission.''4 The attached information provided to the Commission indicates that your company delivered such unsolicited advertisements, through prerecorded messages, to one or more residential telephone subscribers who do not have an established business relationship with your company and had not expressly invited or authorized the call(s). Those actions violate section 64.1200(a)(2) of the Commission's rules.

Separately, it appears that your company may have violated other Commission rules governing prerecorded messages and telephone solicitation. Under section 64.1200(e)(2)(iv), any telephone solicitation - whether live or prerecorded - must provide the called party with the name of the individual caller, the name of the person or entity on whose behalf the call is being made, and an address or telephone number (which may not be for an autodialer or prerecorded message player) at which the person or entity may be contacted.5 According to the attached information received by the Commission, it appears that your telephone solicitation did not contain all the required information.

Please be advised that subsequent violations of the Communications Act or of the Commission's rules of the type described herein may result in the imposition of monetary forfeitures not to exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a continuing violation. 6

Pursuant to section 503((5) of the Communications Act, you may request a personal interview at the Commission's Field Office nearest to your place of business. The nearest office appears to be the Tampa Office at 2203 North Lois Avenue, Suite 1215, Tampa, Florida 33607-2356, which you can contact by telephone at (813) 348-1741. You must schedule this interview to take place within 21 days of the date of this citation. Alternatively, you may submit a written statement to the following address within 21 days of the date of this citation:


If you want to find out more about 514-958-0000 you can call Randal L Leshin @ 954-941-9711. He is the chairman of Express Cosolidated , the company that is making all the calls that have 514-958-0000 on thier call display. Express your concerns and maybe he will stop.

[Guest]

If you want to find out more about 514-958-0000 you can call Randal L Leshin @ 954-941-9711. He is the chairman of Express Cosolidated , the company that is making all the calls that have 514-958-0000 on thier call display. Express your concerns and maybe he will stop.

Since I am the one who started this thread, let me try to clarify what is going on.

Someone has the ability to make lots of prerecorded telephone solicitations in violation of the TCPA, and they have the ability to put through 514-958-0000 on Caller ID with those calls. The calls they make are on behalf of a variety of busnesses, including (but not limited to) travel companies, satellite TV companies, and debt consolidation companies.

As has been pointed out, 514-958-0000 may be "unassigned" and this number is presumably put in Caller ID so that the company physically making these calls can avoid revealing who they really are. None-the-less, I am interested in finding out who is physicall making calls that put 514-958-0000 through on Caller ID (we'll call it "the 514-958-0000 company").

It's helpful to know who is using "the 514-958-0000 company" to make calls for them, but it seems pretty unlikely to me that Express Consolidation is actually physically making calls and putting through 514-958-0000 on Caller ID. It's more likely that Express Consolidation has hired "the 514-958-0000 company" to make the calls for them.

But having said all of the above, the more we know about who "the 514-958-0000 company" is calling on behalf of, the more we know about "the 514-958-0000 company" itself, and the more likely we are to figure out who they really are...

[Guest]

Since I am the one who started this thread, let me try to clarify what is going on.

Someone has the ability to make lots of prerecorded telephone solicitations in violation of the TCPA, and they have the ability to put through 514-958-0000 on Caller ID with those calls.  The calls they make are on behalf of a variety of busnesses, including (but not limited to) travel companies, satellite TV companies, and debt consolidation companies. 

As has been pointed out, 514-958-0000 may be "unassigned" and this number is presumably put in Caller ID so that the company physically making these calls can avoid revealing who they really are.  None-the-less, I am interested in finding out who is physicall making calls that put 514-958-0000 through on Caller ID (we'll call it "the 514-958-0000 company").

It's helpful to know who is using "the 514-958-0000 company" to make calls for them, but it seems pretty unlikely to me that Express Consolidation is actually physically making calls and putting through 514-958-0000 on Caller ID.  It's more likely that Express Consolidation has hired "the 514-958-0000 company" to make the calls for them.

But having said all of the above, the more we know about who "the 514-958-0000 company" is calling on behalf of, the more we know about "the 514-958-0000 company" itself, and the more likely we are to figure out who they really are...

I tried to research this a bit. After reading ( check out smallclaim.info/zen.php)
about how pre-recorded messages are illegal and the partie (s) can be sued; I am seriously thinking about taking this route. I am keeping a log, and following the instructions on this website on how to do this. I litterally get about 20 of these calls a days, minutes apart from each other. They seem to come in clusters. I have been disconnecting them, but after reading the article (website mentioned above),
I am going to actually answer them to see if they fit into the "suable" category. It is a question of principal now; they are disrupting my family time and in some cases, illegally. It's just not right to let this go on.
Can we do a class action suit? Maybe we call all work at locating these people...
What is your opinion? Remember, they read these posts too.

[Guest]

I tried to research this a bit.  After reading ( check out smallclaim.info/zen.php)
about how pre-recorded messages are illegal and the partie (s) can be sued; I am seriously thinking about taking this route.  I am keeping a log, and following the instructions on this website on how to do this.  I litterally get about 20 of these calls a days, minutes apart from each other.  They seem to come in clusters. I have been disconnecting them, but after reading the article (website mentioned above),
I am going to actually answer them to see if they fit into the "suable" category. It is a question of principal now; they are disrupting my family time and in some cases, illegally.  It's just not right to let this go on. 
Can we do a class action suit?  Maybe we call all work at locating these people...
What is your opinion?  Remember, they read these posts too.

It can be a lot of work to sue telemarketers who violate the TCPA, but I've found it to be a rewarding hobby - intellectually, emotionally, and financially.

With practice you will learn how to record the prerecorded message (or simply write down the important parts of the message), how to get the information you need from the live representative, how to send a demand letter, and how to work the court system.

Good luck!!!

[Southern Cal Guest]

November 11, 2004 at 12:10 I just received one of these calls but I answered and was disconnected. I Googled the number and came up withthis thread.

It is unnerving that these jokers even have my number and would like to know how they obtained it. For those getting numerous calls a day this has to be a huge P.I.T.A. and I can only hope it doesn't escalate. In some ways I'm suprised it hasn't happened sooner given what spammers have done to our email systems.

I will monitor this board and take notes on further calls; this simply canot allow to grow as spamming has since you don't have the same options with phones as you do email.

Good luck to us!

[starKiller]

[quote=Southern Cal Guest,Nov 11 2004, 08:25 PM]
November 11, 2004 at 12:10 I just received one of these calls but I answered and was disconnected. I Googled the number and came up withthis thread.

It is unnerving that these jokers even have my number and would like to know how they obtained it. For those getting numerous calls a day this has to be a huge P.I.T.A.


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They don't necessarily have your number. They may be calling all of the numbers in each exchange, like 405-555-0000, 405-555-0001, 405-555-0002, etc.

The reason you get hung up on is because their computer calls several numbers at the same time, when someone answers they are connected to the next available phone drone, if more people answer than there are drones available, you get cut off. The number of people they hang up on is used to figure their abandonment rate.

[njguy]

I received one of these calls last night, 8:00 pm here in NJ.

Its very annoying receiving these kinds of calls. So, I decided I was going to stay on the line and wait to speak with one of their operators. I figured that if they are going to waste my time I was going to waste theirs. Unfortunately, I got cut off when the operator came on.

Why not pretend you're interested in what they have to sell? In my case it was a satellite dish that I have no use for. I was going to stay on the line as long as it took for them to give me their spiel and pretend to let them hook me in. At the end of the call I was then going to tell them that I had no interest in the product and that I hoped I wasted their time with me and caused them to lose a sale since they wasted my time by calling me.

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[Bev]

I keep getting these calls as well, most of the time I don't answer cuz it's usually dead silence. It's very frustrating! Put me on the list of irritated consumers as well.
Beverly in Oregon

[Guest]

Express Consolidation

"Express Consolidation" is still running its telephone scams. Yesterday I got another one of their telemarketing phone messages, falsely stating that I had previously received a letter indicating I'd been approved for consolidation by a "certified non-profit agency," and trying to get me to call 800-481-1242 with credit card information. The call came from Canada (514-958-0000 in Quebec on caller ID), no doubt the better to avoid prosecution. My phone number is unlisted, and the caller ("Joe Summers") did not identify me by name or in any other way. "Express Consolidation" simply calls random numbers and lies about having selected the target for credit approval. Since the caller lied to me as a setup for asking me for credit card records, I assume he is trying to swindle me. This operation, unless there is more than one telemarketer using the name Express Consolidation, has been cited by the FCC for illegal telemarketing practices.

[Guest]

i have got these calls 2 i dont know what thay are hey has any one here got calls thare blocked on id but on the answer machene a message ses if you would like to make a call hang up and try agin

[Mad Answerer]

This is getting annoying I have gotten one about everynight at 8:00 PM..they Even know my name which is creepy... I sure hope they are found and fined for spamming our phone lines It makes me so mad.

[miss kiddy]

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Thanks guys for the good infomation hate those calls

[Ticked Off In Canada]

I have spoken to a Express Consolidated Rep and I have a very similar number in Canada (1 digit difference then 514-958-0000). They told me that it was not there problem if people were too stupid to tell the difference on thier call display between there number and ours. We get 20 calls a day from people calling us by accident and we get threatened and harrassed. Being in Canada we don't have much legal recourse. If you would like to complain you can call Randall L. Leshin at his office and express your concern. He is the chairman of Express Consolidated. We would love for this to stop.

[jennie]

i just received a call from this "quebec" number and they did leave a VM on my mobile, supposedly for mortgage refinance. i phoned the number provided for randall & a guy named rick answered the line. he obviously knew about the problem

[TCPA4all]

i just received a call from this "quebec" number and they did leave a VM on my mobile, supposedly for mortgage refinance. i phoned the number provided for randall & a guy named rick answered the line. he obviously knew about the problem

jennie:

Can you possibly post a transcript of the voice mail message that you got on your mobile phone? Or at least post the number that was provided in the message? I would like to call them and get the name of the company that they are using to send out their prerecorded messages...